Coded Logic

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  Is Revelation a false prophecy; was Luke 21:8 written to discredit it; or is this a massively overlooked bible contradition?

  by Island Man in

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  at luke 21:8 jesus is recorded as telling his disciples:.

  "look out that you are not deceived; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, 'i am he', and, 'the due time has approached.

  at revelation 1:1-3 we read:.

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  Do you still believe in God?

  by FormerlySandL in

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  i never thought i would admit it, but i don't.

  i might superstitiously have some kind of doubt but digging a bit deeper in my heart i really don't believe in god.

  as a human i could never just sit and watch people be tortured, live years of abuse, suffer from illness and disabilities and all the other awful things people have to endure day after day without doing something about it.

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  Good riddance, their departure is a fresh breath of air.

  I enjoy honest debates - honest questions and honest answers. But I have little patience for subterfuge or fallacious apologetics.
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  This thread is for proof that God exists

  by juandefiero in

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  however, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?

  if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.

  (1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.

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  Why is reality constructed in such a way that evolution tends to produce in some sense predictable, or recurring, challenges/outcomes?
  -SBF

  This is a loaded question - it's an attempts to limit direct replies to only those that support the questioners agenda. It's equivalent to asking, "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"

  There is no evidence that reality is constructed on behalf of biological processes. Rather, biological processes are one specific aspect of reality. We could easily replace your question with just about anything.

  Why is reality constructed in such a way that it tends to produce:

  • Black holes
  • Rocks
  • Orange Cats
  • Saturday morning cartoons
  • Farts
  • etc.

  It's as if there is something deep within the structure of the universe that tends toward the outcomes we observe as subjects/objects.

  Have you not heard of physics? Cause and effect? Action and reaction? It's not something "deep within the structure" that causes outcomes. It is the structure that causes outcomes.

  You're a bit like a guy who walks into a crowded restaurant and sees that a hundred people are all sitting in the dining hall and asks, "What is it that all these people have in common that they happen to be here at the same time? What is the common thread?"

  Is it because they're all hungry? No, some of them aren't eating.

  Is it because they all live nearby? No, many of them are from out of town.

  Is it because they all did x, y, or z? No, some portion of them didn't do x, y, or z.

  And you keep on fretting over the question not realizing the question is the answer. What they all have in common is they're all in the restaurant at the same time! And what brought each person there is entirely different and unrelated circumstances.
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  The Watchtower Org will die.

  by Freeandclear in

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  i was just reading through some posts and had a startling realization.. the comment that sparked this went something like this: why oh why when i started into this in 1989 did i not research the history of the wtbts?

  etc....... i too was studying and moving towards baptism around that same time.

  i got dunked in dec of 1990.. my thought.

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  And for every Jdub who leaves, it's another exjdub trying to bring them down because we're all angry.
  -Skedaddle

  An excellent point and one I hadn't really considered. The ex-jw community is certainly growing. And most of us are reaching out to our friends and families in small ways and big.

  The more that leave the WT the bigger our community becomes. And the bigger our community becomes the more influence we have in helping others leave.
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  Are we going to see a mass awakening?

  by kairos in

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  the internet is the archive for civilization.. watchtower cannot hide it's history.. are we seeing the beginning of a mass exodus out of her?.

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  No one joins the WTS because of facts or reason
  -Simon

  But we do leave because of facts and reason!

  
  
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  All Hail Our Robot Overlords

  by Coded Logic in

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  2. current

  absolutely amazing how fast this technology is advancing.

  at the darpa challenge last year the robots could hardly walk up right and it took them ten minutes to walk through an open door frame.

  now they're running around outside and opening doors like a pack of velociraptors!

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  The end of the spider man movies says that all plots can be reduced to a single component: Who am I?

  Personally, I'm hard pressed to think of a single story or movie that isn't about the ever changing nature of a person's (possessive and plural) identity.
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  For those of us creationists who don't know anything about evolution

  by truth doubter in

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  cofty- perhaps you would like to teach us the "first thing about evolution".. truth doubter .

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  Really SBF? That's the "first thing" people should note about evolution? That it "resembles a religion"?

  They shouldn't first note that evolution is a scientific theory? Or that it explains the diverse speciation we see on our planet?

  They shouldn't first note that evolution is the backbone of modern biology? Or that it's used in developmental biology, ontogeny, microbiology, osteology, paleontology, etc?

  They shouldn't first note that evolution is used to develop vaccines, antivirals, and antibiotics? Or that it is crucial component to epidemiology since it allows us to identify mutating strains of a diseases and sometimes even track the step by step transmission of that diseases?

  No? We should just throw all that out the window and say "it resembles a religion"?

  Is the first thing we should note about Christianity is how it resembles Madagascar? Is the first thing we should note about blue whales is how they resemble the Apollo Missions?

  I swear SBF, every time I start thinking "well maybe he's not a troll afterall" you turn around and post something like this.
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  Are we using too many acronyms?

  by Coded Logic in

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  ever wondered how your post might read to someone who's new to this site?.

  (may take you a sec to get the real acronyms that are being used).

  well i've noticed a pattern where a lot of ostentatious peoples that talk about their tough ass tax troubles only relate it to it as a problem that's being perpetrated by the federal & democratic states.

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  I agree SBF. Though I do sometimes enjoy how certain members have hijacked the WTs loaded language and have made a complete mockery out of it.
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  All Hail Our Robot Overlords

  by Coded Logic in

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  absolutely amazing how fast this technology is advancing.

  at the darpa challenge last year the robots could hardly walk up right and it took them ten minutes to walk through an open door frame.

  now they're running around outside and opening doors like a pack of velociraptors!

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  The trailer looks like How To Train Your Dragon but with robots . . . I'm so sold!!!
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  For those of us creationists who don't know anything about evolution

  by truth doubter in

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  cofty- perhaps you would like to teach us the "first thing about evolution".. truth doubter .

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  Coded Logic

  Wow TruthDoubter, you have quite a hostile crowd here. I wonder what you did to get everyone so riled up?

  No matter, let's start with the basics of what evolution is. Evolution is a scientific theory that explains the diverse speciation we observe on our planet (in other words, it explains why there's so many different kinds of life forms). Much like Atomic Theory explains how matter is made up of discrete units (atoms) the Theory of Evolution explains how species change over time.

  The nuts and bolts of evolution are that genetic mutation along with selection slowly change a species. This is because animals* that reproduce pass on their genes. And animals that don't reproduce don't pass on their genes. Some animals within their species will be better a reproducing and thus their genes will spread more. Over time, the genetic material that gave them that animal an advantage will spread throughout the whole species.

  Now, to go slightly deeper, we can look at the two mechanisms of evolution. The first is mutation. Genes are never copied perfectly. Thus the offspring of an animal will always have slightly different genetic material from its parent(s). Sometimes this new genetic material puts the offspring at a disadvantage and the offspring isn't able to reproduce - so the "bad" genes will not be passed on. Sometimes the genetic material has no discernable effect - so the offspring is able to reproduce just as well as its parents. And sometimes the genetic material gives the offspring an advantage - in which case it's able to produce more offspring. And those offspring will also have that genetic material that gives them an advantage so they too will reproduce more offspring. Etc. Until the whole species has this new mutation.

  The other basic component of evolution is selection. This is broken down into three types:

  1.) Natural Selection. Animals that are better suited to their environment are more likely to survive. And animals that can survive can reproduce. While animals that can't survive in their environment will not reproduce.

  2.) Sexual Selection. Animals that that are able to attract a mate are more likely to produce offspring. And animals that can't attract a mate won't reproduce offspring.

  3.) Artificial Selection. Animals that have desirable traits are more likely to be selected to produce offspring. Whereas animals with undesirable traits are less likely to produce offspring.

  So the mutation provides new features to the animal and the features that are advantageous are "selected" by one (or more) of the above processes. Thus, species change over time.

  Sometimes a single species in two separate environments will drift apart genetically as genes selected for in one environment are not selected for in another. If the two groups of the species become isolated from one another for long enough their genes will diverge so much that the two groups are no longer able to produce viable offspring together. We see this going on with Tigers in Asia and Lions in Africa. They used to be one species but since the continents split Lions and Tigers haven't been able to share genetic information. And what was used to be one species is now two species. And mating between them produces sterile offspring.

  If you take away only one point from everything I've written please let it be this: Individual animals don't evolve. Species evolve.

  Well, I think that's a good start. Perhaps someone else would like to take it from there. If you have any questions feel free to ask on this thread of PM.

  *I'm using the word "animal" to signify a single individual of a species and not a taxonomic group.